![]() ![]() WICKMAN: Yeah, I think the kind of classic example is how we often still see a floppy disk as an icon for saving something, and so sometimes this is called an audio skeuomorph. Oh - skeuomorphism, the idea of, like, having a folder, right, to put your documents in - all that language on computers even though you're not touching folders or paper. It's just added to kind of emphasize the action that you're doing.ĬORNISH: I forget what that's called visually. So for example, if you take out your iPhone and you have the sound on then every time you type, you're going to hear clicking noises even though, of course, there's no actual natural sound there. But I think we can't laugh at it too much because we do see examples of reification that we interact with every day. WICKMAN: Whereas in real life, sound doesn't travel through space. So in "Star Wars," you hear a TIE fighter screaming by, and it makes this kind of whooshing, roaring noise. ![]() While reporting this, I was introduced to this term reification - when a sound is given to something that really doesn't have a sound in real life. And did they talk about other effects in movies, essentially, objects that make far different sounds than they would in real life? ![]() Though, as it's used today, it doesn't really refer directly to anything in real life.ĬORNISH: You spoke about these sound designers. It's - as the name implies - just a way to send information across large distances, and I believe that that is one of the inspirations for this noise. ![]() WICKMAN: So the sound you just played is a radio teletype noise, which has been used for all sorts of things. Navy actually took them into submarines for that movie, and they heard a bunch of noises inside of the submarine. And eventually, I just ended up calling up a bunch of the, you know, sound designers for these movies, and they all pointed me back towards "The Hunt For Red October."ĬORNISH: "The Hunt For Red October," a classic, but also involves submarines, right (laughter).ĬORNISH. WICKMAN: Yeah, I went back to some of the movies that you played in the intro here and was trying to figure out where the earliest example of it was. And I'd been hearing it all my life, but for the first time, I just thought, you know, what is that noise?ĬORNISH: So where did your investigation lead you? And it just really made me think about it. And then they kind of slowly zoomed in on a British flag, and right then it came up, you know, saying, London, comma, England. You know, they showed a shot of London, and you could see Big Ben right there and Westminster. WICKMAN: Yeah, I first noticed it while watching "Jack Ryan: Shadow Recruit" last year, and the reason it really jumped out at me is it was one of those shots where it just wasn't necessary. When did you first notice the sound, and why did you feel compelled to follow it to the source? He joins us now to talk more about it.ĬORNISH: So we mentioned a couple films there, going back. And Forrest Wickman, who writes for Slate's culture blog, Brow Beat, wanted to know why. (SOUNDBITE OF FILM, "ENEMY OF THE STATE")ĬORNISH: All right, all right - you get the idea. (SOUNDBITE OF FILM, "THE BOURNE ULTIMATUM")ĬORNISH: Or here, in the movie "Enemy Of The State." You can hear it here, in "The Bourne Ultimatum." Text makes a sound when it appears on screen. And then there would probably be some text - Washington, 0800 hours.ĬORNISH: Did you hear that? You might not have even noticed it because it's so common. so maybe the Capitol Building or the Lincoln Memorial. Then an establishing shot - we're in D.C. If this next interview were an action movie, we'd probably start with some ominous music.ĬORNISH. ![]()
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